Resigning as photographer

  • 20 Dec 2011 6:20 PM
    Message # 777714

    Hi all,

    Writing to say that I can't continue as PSN's photographer and if there's unfinished photography business from this year, best to alert me to it ASAP before it becomes forgotten. I will still pay attention to any legacy work, but apart from that, for all intents and purposes today I'm passing the baton to whoever wants to be photographer next year. My outlook for next year means my chances of being able to attend further gatherings are not good and my capacity to help out is diminished. I will still stay on as a member, but without making any promises I can't keep.

    Next year PSN will be using a different understanding of having a photographer position and you could be a designated photographer for some events among other people for other events, as far as I understand it. The role will be made more democratic and with better lines of communication for working out who photographs what. I wish anyone who takes up this opportunity next year more success than I had in the job.

    I'm glad to have had the opportunity to help spread the love of permaculture in a way I could do, even if my output was very modest. Hopefully I can do it again sometime in future.

    PS Did anyone pick up a small brown umbrella last night at the meeting? I left my umbrella there and would like to know what happened to it.

    Last modified: 20 Dec 2011 6:21 PM | Andrew
  • 21 Dec 2011 12:12 PM
    Reply # 778399 on 777714


    Thank you for your contribution to the Advocacy Team.  I hope all goes well for you in the year ahead.  Have a Happy Christmas and a Prosperous 2012.


    Barry Hadaway

  • 22 Dec 2011 5:50 AM
    Reply # 778895 on 777714
    Diana (Administrator)
    Thank you Andrew. Whilst I am sad that you will not attend so frequently, I am delighted that you have a new direction. Hopefully, you will continue to play a valuable part of the local group. The umbrella is on the verandah - you are welcome to have a cup of tea and a chat with us when you pick it up. I look forward to seeing your pictures when you are ready. Happy Christmas
  • 25 Dec 2011 1:29 PM
    Reply # 781005 on 777714

    Thanks for the best wishes Barry, and may Advocacy keep going strong in the new year. And Diana, always a pleasure to speak with you.

    There are things I think I ought to say in light of being resigned as I'm not sure I'll really have much opportunity to say them again. I find it hard not to be demoralised at the moment as I see what I'd regard as warning signs that the peoplecare principle might become forgotten among the hype about where PSN is headed. I've tried to avoid talking about this as I know it's not in keeping with what people want to be the spirit of the season, but my instinct is that it has to be said and even if it turns out to be wrong I think we can learn something. If I'm being vague, it's because I'm not sure how well this concern would be handled next year.

    There are also things I think I ought to say on how the photographer position was handled. I seem to have made quite an impression earlier this year when I made noise about not being told I had been appointed photographer - I've since come to accept not being told as part of the difficulty smaller nonprofits can have with internal communication, but I think it can be taken as a lesson in taking care with introducing something new, for the good of everyone involved.

    The role as was envisioned this year needed someone with more connections and professional development than I have. I had quite a struggle with trying to gather enough interested people together to make ideas happen and most ideas either had to be dropped or got lost in communication. There seemed to be an expectation for much of the year that I be an (effectively) independent operator as photographer. That's fine, but not easy if you're not familiar with what can be done solo and what can't. I know committee members were at pains to point out that I could do as much or as little as I liked, but in practice that meant doing little no matter what as I couldn't keep up trying independent designs (like group emails for photography) by myself. I hope the changes next year go some way towards solving this.

    If I was able to be photographer in 2011 all over again, what I'd do differently would be to always try to cultivate at least 3 different options for a course of action - it was common that I'd act after getting one option, and then be stopped dead when something went wrong with trying to use that one option. I found it instructive that the best working relationship I formed as PSN photographer, was with someone outside of PSN. It's the power of multiple options that there's more room for things to go well.

    It's not clear to me whether or not I was taken seriously as photographer. I know of only one instance this year in which photos I took were used by other members. Whether that's a success or failure might depend on how you measure it, but it is a little disappointing to me given how many dramas came up during the year that were at least partly rooted in me being photographer.

    The changes in the committee for next year mean I'm not sure there's anyone I can talk to appropriately about my concerns. I know who I can expect a fair hearing from, but to be honest I have no confidence that they won't be overruled by what one person thinks of my personality. I don't have to put myself in the line of fire and particularly since I'm expecting a stressful year ahead, making sure I'm okay has to come first for me, for the next while.

    There are people I'd like to thank individually who I haven't done so already. Andrea for always being a beacon of compassion (also for responding to login problems at a busy time!), Janna for also being very helpful to me. Peter W. for always being easy and stimulating company. Leo for enlightening me about large file transfers. Others I know I'd like to thank but have gotten blocks on writing about in putting this post together - Penny, Doug, Geoffrey and the Advocacy team. Anyone else I want to thank but can't remember at a busy time. Hope the holidays are good for everyone.

  • 28 Dec 2011 11:23 AM
    Reply # 782462 on 777714

    Also many thanks Andrew for taking the time to give your insights into the position of photographer - much appreciated.  I think you were the first official photographer, and your suggestions will form the basis of a 'job description' which will help and provide support to others in the future.  I will ask you to look over the draft if you have time.

    Thank  you too for your professional manner - always impressive.

    See you at meetings, and every good wish for the year,
    Kay Phelan
    (now Secty management committee)

  • 29 Dec 2011 9:50 AM
    Reply # 782977 on 777714

    Kay, can you email me so I can respond privately? I may have to negotiate on being able to respond to this proposal. My email address should be visible in my entry in the member directory if you don't have it.

    Everyone else seems to have a better opinion of how I did as photographer than my opinion of how I did as photographer! Thanks for the nice wishes, I hope next year does turn out to be better for me than I expect. Andrew

  • 23 Jan 2012 9:11 AM
    Reply # 804907 on 777714
    Andrew, I have just seen your film you made of Cecelia from a recent PSN meeting. Just wanted to say I am most impressed at the high quality work, blending in the different angles and cuts etc as I appreciate this is very time consuming and quite a skilled task. Especially being your first time Andrew, I think you did an excellent job and think you have a talent for this. Many thanks, Penny 
  • 26 Jan 2012 12:43 AM
    Reply # 806877 on 777714

    Cheers Penny, I hope people can get as much use/inspiration out of the clips as work I put into them. I had a lot of grief from misbehaving codecs and after how long it took me to make all raw footage viewable, it didn't make that much difference in time taken to edit properly.

    I'll be starting to make a Youtube version of the "Weeds or Wild Nature" audio very soon and will need visual material to go with it. If anyone has suited images or video to offer me I'd be very grateful.

  • 27 Jan 2012 9:50 AM
    Reply # 808199 on 777714
    Thants great Andrew, first time is always the hardest and now you know what youre doing it gets easier. Re the weeds forum, I'd start with getting some pics from me, diana watson and anyone else who took them at the forum. Let me know when your ready.Thanks again, Penny

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